Q&A with Tahir Shah
I just did a Q&A with myself, based on some of the questions I’m asked on a regular basis.
WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WRITING FICTION AND NON-FICTION?
There are both huge differences and huge similarities. For me, book writing (any writing for that matter) is about storytelling. Tell the story in the right way and the reader will do a kind of dance through your work. The most important thing for me is that my reader has the right experience, and that’s achieved by giving a great deal of thought to the way a passage will be read. I devote time to thinking about the reader whether I’m writing fiction or non-fiction.
Naturally, though, with fiction you can let yourself loose a whole lot more. But, having said that, I think there’s enormous scope for non-fiction writers (especially travel writers) in observing what they think they know and understand, in new ways. It’s a great challenge, but one that pays great dividends when you get it right.
HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH IDEAS FOR NOVELS?
I have ideas all the time. They often start with a word or a phrase, or a photograph, or something strange that I overhear someone saying to their friend on a bus. It doesn’t really matter where it comes from, but rather how you use it. At my desk, I write ideas down on coloured Post-It notes and stick them on the wall. Sometimes the wall looks likes a field of spring flowers, because there are so many ideas stuck up there.
And what works for me is to live with an idea – to see it up there on the wall day after day, and to turn it around my head in idle moments. Sometimes I struggle hard to fill in the gaps, but I find that the more I think about something, the deeper it goes into my head. It whirs away there and then one day – or night – I all the dots join up. It’s a kind of magic of the subconscious.
WHAT’S THE BEST WAY TO WRITE?
Whatever works best for you. That’s the right answer. And the thing is that most people remain amateurs because they don’t take it seriously, really seriously. Writing is a craft, one that you have to learn and work away at. I cringe when I see some of the earlier stuff I wrote. But, it was all part of a learning process, and I like to hope that my work is getting better all the time.
As for me, I find that what works best is to plan a book, and then to write 3000 words a day, every day, until it’s done. I write about 500 words an hour, and find that I can sit down easily for six hours a day. I also find that if I’m tired it’s best to go back to bed for half an hour, otherwise complete rot comes out. And the worst thing you can have is complete rot. It’s impossible to edit.
The other thing that I swear by is the idea of writing for oneself. I know I said that I keep my readers in mind, but I also try to write material that pleases me, and sends a shot of electricity down my spine – even when I’ve read it fifty times. Please yourself, and others will be pleased too.
HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE WRITERS IN GENERAL?
Writers are observers of the human condition. They are usually a mixture of genius and sloth, and are the kind of people who can’t hold down a real job. And I see that as a good thing. They are usually neurotic and traumatized by a sense of guilt at not producing as much, or as good, work as they ought to be doing.
I get very very annoyed when I see extremely talented writers who don’t push themselves. In my opinion, everyone could write four or five books a year. After all, if you were a carpenter making tables, you would be expected to make more than one or two tables every couple of years.
I am completely at war with publishing mainstream because I think publishers have shaped authors’ work in the most dreadful ways, and have encouraged them not to produce. The reason’s simple – because publishers are completely crap at doing what they’re supposed to be doing – selling books.
WHAT DO YOU LOVE ABOUT WRITERS?
I love that they’re always available to meet for a cup of coffee in the middle of the afternoon. And I love that they are dreamers. After all, a world without dreamers would be an odious place.
WHAT DO YOU HATE ABOUT THEM?
There’s one thing that gets me riled up, even more than when I think about publishers… and that’s writers who go about being all self-important. I can’t stand authors who talk down to anyone and imagine that they are somehow superior, and that their work is pure genius. Those are the people who are normally terribly self-conscious and insecure, the ones who put on a façade when out in public.
Sometimes, very rarely now, I go to literary festivals. They tend to make my flesh crawl because writers are trying to impress everyone. When I go to those things I’m just so incredibly grateful that anyone would buy my books at all, and I feel very awkward when people clap at the end.
WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT EBOOKS?
They are a good thing. It’s that simple. Because anything which gets people reading is a good thing. eBooks remind me of the Tale of the Sands.
In the story, a stream wants to cross the desert. He starts crossing the desert but instantly his water is sucked down into the sand. He cries out:
‘Help! Help! What am I to do, I’m being sucked in?!’
Then he hears a voice, a voice that is the desert speaking to him.
‘Oh little stream, you are young and silly and you don’t realize that in order to cross my great expanse, you are going to have to change your form.’
‘But I’m a stream,’ says the stream, ‘and all I know to do is to trickle forward and so that’s what I’m going to do.’
With that, the stream tried to cross the desert a second time. And, as before, he failed.
Then the desert spoke again.
‘Oh little stream, think back in your memories and try to remember a time when you were different. Try to remember yourself in another form.’
The stream thought and he thought, and he thought and he thought, and suddenly he remembered that long before he was different.
The desert then said: ‘Oh stream, throw yourself into the wind, and become mist, so that you can be carried over my vast expanse on the breeze.’
And that’s what the stream did.
When eventually he reached a cool rock-face on the other side of the desert, he condensed into a stream again, and continued to trickle until he reached the sea.
And that for me is the situation with eBooks. Yes, yes, I love printed books, but in order to reach new people, books have to change their form. The Romans and Greeks never had printed printed books like we do. They had handwritten scrolls. And eBooks and e-readers are just a new extension of the craft.
YOU ARE FROM A FAMILY OF WRITERS. WHAT’S THAT LIKE?
My father was the writer Idries Shah, and my aunt, Amina, has published books, too. Their father was the Afghan savant Sirdar Ikbal Ali Shah, who wrote numerous books in the ’twenties and ’thirties. And their mother wrote several books under the pen-name Morag Murray Abdullah. My twin sister, Safia, is writing stories and children’s books now. And my elder sister, Saira, has a new book (MOUSEPROOF KITCHEN) which is published next week.
What’s it like?
It’s a great thing. I like to think that my grandfather, my father, and I have all considered some of the same themes – and faced the same problems – but have all been of service to each other as well.
WHY DO YOU HATE THE PUBLISHING INDUSTRY SO PASSIONATELY?
Publishing is unlike any other business. My friends who work in publishing will, I hope forgive me for saying this, but it attracts people who have almost no business sense. Some of the nicest people I have ever met are publishers, but they are also the most lackluster bunch of amateurs.
I like to imagine starting a publishing firm and filling it full of hard-nosed businessmen, the kind of sell perfume to the masses or plastic buckets door to door. Publishers print zillions of books and then are amazed when they don’t sell… and, they do next to nothing to sell them.
I am absolutely thrilled to think of all the two-bit second-rate publishers going bankrupt. There are one or two I’m eagerly awaiting at this very moment to go down. One in particular – a firm based in west London with the initials IBT – has just reminded me how totally derelict and forlorn the publishing industry has recently become. For anyone reading this who knows the British sit-com Only Fools and Horses, much of British publishing resembles something worthy only of Delboy Trotter.
WHAT’S THE FUTURE?
The future is a new system in which authors sell their work directly to the public as eBooks and Print On Demand. And there will be high quality limited editions, too. It’s not really a new system (reaching the public directly that is), but rather is one that predates conventional publishing. After all, authors used to go to printers and print up copies of their work, and then sell them through bookshops. The bookshops then got wise and formed themselves into publishing firms. And that’s really where everything went awry.
I want to see a future (and, believe me, it will come soon), in which authors are at the top of the pyramid, and in which all the second-rate college dropouts get kicked out of the equation. Look at almost any mainstream publisher and you’ll find endless losers doing dead-end jobs, all of them fearful that they’re going to get found out and fired. In the brave new world authors will hire editors themselves, and will see the books they want to produce reaching the market – rather than the books that a bunch of monkeys on fence want to see there.
Take my word for it, we’ll never look back.
Thanks for all insight and experience you share Tahir! My friends I help create stuff with in an LA music are writing their last record on their current publishing deal. Ironically the singer has a scorpion tattoo on his back from his neck to his sacrum. They signed the contract several years ago, they called it a joint venture “profit sharing” deal but we didn’t foresee itunes, digital music, etc. There were lots of fancy dinners, free playstations that we played hours of a samurai video game cacalmedlled bushido blade on, and an overall process at work that created a huge sense of self importance and consequent lack of focus. They thought it was a pioneering deal @ the time, but it turned out there was a bunch of back door dealing that came back to haunt them. What’s interesting is how through your books I’ve learned to see cities different ways, along with story telling. To me Hollywood is alot about utilizing production tool’s, acessing current technologies, and how to inject content in the container, isn’t there an arabic term tahya something- heart of the content that’s a sneaky formulation to work with, The movie industry is one of the last constricting publishing entities, and making a movie is kind of the end goal of the project I think. I’ll be going down there a lot this next year, journaling and jumping and preaching your gospel to all that will hear (I’m sure), hopefully it will be an accurate interpretation. You’re a real inspiration, Shukran to all the fisherman, with all respect and sincerity may we all be guided to the best work, semia twy.
Thank you Tahir. I got a lot out of that for myself and my attempts at writing. I just hope that the ebook self-publishing can remain free of interference. Once again, thank you!
what an interesting question and answer.
i shall re read and am thinking about it.
glimpses of gold nuggets.
gold nuggets from you. as is usual in your work. glimpses for me, if the blink of an eye can be called a glimpse.
once again THANK YOU very much.
so instructive in language so casual that the himalayas is missed.
Thanks so much for the good clear advice Tahir.
In particular the advice to think about how a passage will be read, and also in a sense writing for oneself struck home for me.
However it raises a question or two which others may find of interest as well.
If I might ask you:
If I write for oneself as you suggest, I would write in a particular way and at a level suitable for my own consumption. In your own work then, do you also consider the level of the reader, as well as writing for oneself? You do mention that you spend much time considering how a passage will be read. Is this a part of your consideration?
This also for me raises the issue of what is appropriate to write about, and what is not? And at what level? In other words, how best to define the boundaries? Some general hints here would be most useful.
dear Tahir,
i dont know if it is just my computer but if i go to your question and answer interview (ie this one) through my email there is no problem but if i attempt to open the page via the google search engine ( Tahir Shah question and answer) my anti virus notice pops up and says there is a menace.
i mention it just in case it is not my computer posting false messages and there is some trouble somewhere on the site.
i have just tried the google question and answer again and no warning was activated.
my anti viral alarm may be acting up.
it warned me of a menace on the vilnius master class site not very long ago and the same thing on the ‘interview with myself. Tahir Shah’ posted on my face book page , so it may have got its knickers in a twist.
i am sorry i can not tell for myself whether the warning is just a malfunction of my computer and am thus bothering you about nothing.